Method Man, Killer Mike and Chris Claremont talk about magneto
Method Man is a founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan, a hip-hop legend and a geek geek when it comes to fun books. Her podcast, “Marvel / Method,” invites guests each week to delve into the piles of their favorite stories – often with the very creators who wrote them. The latest episode found Killer Mike, half of hip-hop duo Run the Jewels, joined by Chris Claremont, the stepfather of Marvel’s “Uncanny X-men”.
The podcast isn’t afraid of its niche – the dustiest corners of the old long boxes. Recent episodes have featured guests like director Kevin Smith talking about “Kraven’s Last Hunt” with writer JM DeMatteis and sports writer Jemele Hill talking about his love of Silver Surfer with writer Dan Slott.
Even among such a reputable company, Chris Claremont is a legend. The author drove the old Kirby / Lee franchise from declining sales to fan favorite and ran “Uncanny X-men” and some of its satellite titles for a decade and a half. His vision for the team is final and his stories like “The Dark Phoenix Saga” have not only influenced the comic book franchise and the films that stem from it, but the entire comic book industry. His stories featured Jean Gray destroying a galaxy, a dystopian future of mutant internment camps, and the now classic reinvention of villain-turned-anti-hero Magneto as a Holocaust survivor.
“Wolverine and, say, Storm and Nightcrawler brought me in,” Killer Mike told Method Man. “But Magneto keeps me… I say he is a person of an oppressed ethnicity. It all made sense when you find out that Magneto was a child of the Holocaust and his lasting trauma was that, and survived that … “
Killer Mike is no stranger to comics. The rapper tells Method Man about his father’s influence in his hobby and how he always equates the medium with things like sneakers and cars like ‘daddy stuff’. While Marvel books occasionally appear in his nursery rhymes, Run the Jewels featured on a series of Marvel covers really bolstered the activist host’s nerd credibility. He even wrote a 500-word intro to the comic book company’s 2016 initiative to immortalize classic hip hop albums on its covers.
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Magneto was right
Killer Mike brings to the podcast an insightful analysis of his now-often-repeated comparison of his favorite mutant to civil rights leader Malcolm X (and his friend and sometimes Martin Luther King’s foe Professor X):
“They say they modeled him after Malcolm and Xavier after Martin… You really understand that even if you look at these two characters as real human beings, you have to understand that Malcom suffered trauma as Martin, a middle class person. black girl from Atlanta, had never endured. Even though they were both black, even though they had both suffered injustices… Malcom went through unspeakable bullshit, trauma and brutality. Once you get the hang of Magneto, you start to understand his intolerance for b *******. It’s not that he hates us humans, it’s that he understands our ability to do evil in a much more intimate way… ”
“Magneto Was Right,” is a phrase borrowed from Grant Morrison’s later series on the X-men, a geek meme, and something of a leitmotif on the podcast – even part of the show’s theme song. In the issue, the slogan is worn on a t-shirt by an Academy student and one of Method Man’s favorite characters, Kid Omega, who will soon lead a student riot. He refers to a philosophical difference between the character and Professor X: Where historically the leader of the X-men taught peaceful coexistence and the protection of humans, Magneto believed in aggressively prioritizing his downtrodden mutant companions, often to the detriment of race. human.
Claremont goes on at length about the Master of magnetism:
“For me as a playwright it is so much more interesting and stimulating [a] character than Xavier. Xavier is perfect. All you can do is decrease it. Whereas Magneto is that imperfect hero. And I’m sorry, from Shakespeare to Flawed Heroes are so much more fun and so much more challenging and so much more rewarding because they can come to the brink of disaster. And you are terrified will they pass and return? And to me, that’s what made him such a rich and necessary character because he was the other side of the question – but couldn’t he learn? I mean, if you look at Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, there has been an evolution, both away from purity – what we perceive as purity – away from their original direction. It wasn’t working quite the way they thought it would, so they were trying to evolve into something new. And the heartache was that they were both shot before they got there.
God loves, man kills
Seconds after being introduced to Claremont, Killer Mike brings up ‘God Loves, Man Kills’, the 1982 X-men graphic novel. “This is one of the best rap album tracks for a non-rap album. that I have never heard in my life, ”he told the author. “I walk away and I’m like the fuck, why didn’t I call my mixtape that?”
The book is one of the earliest examples of the dark graphic novels aimed at adults that defined the medium in the 1980s. In it, Magneto tackles the evil of humanity, terrorism and the murder of two mutant children at the same time. asks William Stryker, an anti-mutant evangelist. Claremont mentions watching months of television as research.
“40 years ago you had the foresight, as a much younger man, to see growth – because tele-evangelism was starting to develop,” comments Killer Mike. He goes on to suggest that comics and sci-fi were like hiding drugs in honey, hiding social commentary, and likening it to music like KRS-One’s. “… I have a feeling that forty years later, all the kids who didn’t read comics or watch science fiction are now married to the mythology of religious books and the promotion of war and war. murder of people …
The story is notable for a scene where Kitty Pride – a character introduced by Claremont at the age of thirteen two years earlier – is called a “mutie” and wonders how another character of color would react to an offensive racial insult. and real. . The scene is controversial and the merits / flaws of which have been debated. Method Man, Killer Mike and the author himself weigh in on “Marvel / Method”.
“I always thought that art and artists were more courageous back then,” says Killer Mike. “So I would like to say that forty years later, I am better for having read this question …”
After recalling the context of the scene, a thirteen-year-old girl reacts badly “with her gut, not with her brain”, continues Claremont: “The hope was to draw common points – human common points – between all these people. that we are generally used to. think like creatures in costumes. And to confront both Charles and Magneto with the question, which of us is really right in our quest? You want to build bridges, but you don’t – and I just want to punch them in the nose. Do you think I might have the right idea? “